First suitably overcast morning since I made the test juices earlier this month. All juice used 1 liter of water, detergent, 5% citric acid solution for pH adjustment (to adjust to pH 7.6) and 9 grams of BLM per liter of water.

The juices were:

  • Dawn Pro (2017) at 20:1. Tap water juice.
  • Dawn Pro (2017) at 20:1. Distilled water.
  • Dawn Ultra 3x at 20:1. Tap water
  • Dawn Ultra 3x at 25:1. Tap water.

Conditions. Temperature 64F and humidity 76%. Time of day 8 am (PDT). Mild breeze.

Each solution had its own loop: 32" top-string of Secureline 3/16" diamond braid cord.

All juices worked equally well. Many tubes in the 30-40 foot range -- though the breeze was slow enough that long tubes split into individual bubbles. Several tubes would have exceeded 40 feet by quite a bit if the bubbles hadn't split off.

Color Profile Quick Take. Ultra 3x at 20:1 was similar-ish to Dawn Pro at 16:1 (though perhaps not as thin-filmed). Ultra 3x at 25:1 was quite similar to Dawn Pro at 20:1 though I need to review the videos again.

Still of a typical tube from the session. All solutions produced many tubes of this length.

20170725 0435B DP2017 20to1 Distilled HIGHLIGHT

2017 07 25. 30-40 foot tube. SecureLine loop (32" top-string). Juice is Dawn Pro (2017) and water at 20:1 (water to Dawn) ratio, pH-adjusted to 7.6. 9 grams of BLM per liter of water. Temperature: 64F. Humidity 75%


Dawn Pro at 20:1 - Tube

Nice bubble tube

Nice bubble tube


Dawn Ultra 3x at 20:1 - Tube

Ultra 3x 20 1 Bubble Tube 20170725

Ultra 3x 20 1 Bubble Tube 20170725


Color Profile Comparisons

One of the session's goals was to compare color profiles of Ultra 3x to typical Dawn Pro solutions as Ultra 3x has higher effective surfactancy and I am trying to figure out the equivalence. The images below are typical bubbles. These profiles dominated. "Typical" is the color profile of tubes from about 10 to 20 or so feet. The "stretched" column is the profile of the thinnest films achieved -- which were tubes approaching 40 feet long with this setup. As a bubble exhausts the wick's capacity the resulting film gets thinner and thinner. See conclusions section below.

Color Profiles Compared
Typical Stretched
DP 20:1
20170725 DP2017 20to1 typical

Dawn Pro at 20:1. Typical unstretched color profile.

20170725 DP2017 20to1 max stretch

Dawn Pro at 20:1 color profile at the maximum stretch

U3x 25:1

20170725 U3X 25to1 typical

Dawn Ultra 3x at 25:1. Typical color profile

20170725 U3X 25to1 max stretch2

Dawn Ultra 3x at 25:1. This is the color profile at maximum stretch.

U3X 20:1
20170725 U3X 20to1 typical

Dawn Ultra 3X at 20:1. Typical color profile.

20170725 U3X 20to1 max stretch 2

Dawn Ultra 3x at maximum stretch. A tube longer than 20 feet already split off from this tube!

Dawn Ultra 3x clearly has higher surfactancy than Dawn Pro Manual Pot and Pan. Dawn Ultra 3x also requires more acid than Dawn Pro to achieve a similar pH. More about the amount of citric acid needed to adjust these detergents found  on PH Adjusters and Water Conditioners.

Based on this session and another, my current feeling is that Dawn Ultra 3x at 25:1 achieves a somewhat thinner film than Dawn Pro at 20:1 and that Dawn Ultra 3x at 20:1 is similar to Dawn Pro at a little higher than 16:1. All comparisons based on pH-adjusted juice where pH was dropped to about 7.6 with 5% citric acid solution.

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